I played Magic about 24 years ago and then stopped. I am interested in getting re-engaged but was wondering if I could still play the older version of the game which had far fewer number of cards and was easier. The version I remember had 5 different colors (Black, White, Green, Red and Blue). On line you would choose a color and build your deck from a random selection of the cars associated with that specific color. Does that version still exist somewhere?
As this question is from 2010 and many new versions have been released since, It seems worth compiling a list of versions and notable differences. This answer can then easily be edited by anyone as more version get released. Please anyone feel free to edit/update this. I have not covered strengths and weaknesses as this is completely subjective.
I will list for each map its player count, number of pieces players start with (or other equivalent), rules for drawing tickets, special rules, bonus scoring rules. If a rule is slightly different to base game (ie with the double routes or removing tickets from the game).
For any Special Rules I will list just “ferries, tunnels” or other brief description of special rules rather than explaining every special rule in full.
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 3 keep at least 2
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : None
Bonus Scoring : 10 Points for longest route
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 1 Long Ticket and 3 Normal tickets keep at least 2. Untaken starting tickets are removed from the game.
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1. Untaken tickets placed at bottom of deck.
Special Rules : Ferries. Tunnels.
Bonus Scoring : 10 Points for longest route
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 4 keep at least 2. Choose how many to take from a long and short ticket deck
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1. Choose how many to take from each deck
Special Rules : Passengers/merchandise. The +4 locomotive. Tickets linking to countries.
Bonus Scoring : 10 Points for most completed tickets.
Players : 2-3
Starting pieces: 40
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 2. Untaken tickets removed from the game
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1. Untaken tickets removed from the game
Special Rules : Locos are Tunnel Cards and no restrictions on taking them. Tunnels. Tickets linking countrys. Double routes can be taken 3 player.
Bonus Scoring : 10 Points for longest route..
Players : 2-3
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 2. Untaken tickets removed from game.
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1. Untaken tickets removed from game.
Special Rules : No restriction on taking face up locomotives, Tunnels, Ferries, Double routes can be used with 3 players. Can use 4 cards as a loco on a specific route.
Bonus Scoring : 10 Points for most completed tickets.
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 1 Long Ticket and 3 Normal tickets keep at least 2. Untaken starting tickets are removed from the game.
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1. untaken tickets to bottom of deck.
Special Rules : Ferries, Mountains
Bonus Scoring : 10 points for most connected cities.
Players : 2-6 playing in pairs
Starting pieces: 27 trains per player matching colour of teammate.
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 3 per player.
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Team play with a mixture of shared/private wagons/tickets.
Bonus Scoring : 10 points for team with longest route. 10 points for team with most completed tickets.
Players : 2-4
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 4 keep at least 2.
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Ferries
Bonus Scoring : 10 point for longest route. Mandala Ticket Bonuses (completing a ticket twice with 2 separate routes).
Players : 2-4
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 4 keep at least 2.
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Ferries
Bonus Scoring : 10 point for longest route. Mandala Ticket Bonuses (completing a ticket twice with 2 separate routes).
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 4 keep at least 2.
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Terrain Cards allowing to double points when claiming a route.
Bonus Scoring : 10 Points for most completed tickets.
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 40
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 3.
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1. untaken tickets form a FACE UP discard pile.
Special Rules : Double routes in use even at 2 players. Toll Routes. A neutral player for 2 player games.
Bonus Scoring : variable bonus points for remaining Toll Tokens.
Players : 2-4
Starting pieces: 35
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 3.
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Players start with a locomotive. any 4 cards can be used as a locomotive. Face up wagons are not wiped if 3 are locomotives. Ferries. Technology cards (purchased with Locomotives)
Bonus Scoring : No regular end game bonuses but some technologies provide end game bonuses.
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 3.
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Ferries. Stocks and Shares, special 2 player rules
Bonus Scoring : 15 points for most completed tickets. Points for stocks and shares.
Players : 2-4
Starting pieces: 35
Starting tickets: Draw 4 keep at least 2.
Tickets during game : Draw 2 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Multi routes to countries usual able in all player counts. Other double routes follow usual rules
Bonus Scoring : Points collected during game for linking countries. No tickets go to countries.
Players : 2-4
Starting pieces: 20
Starting tickets: draw 2 keep both
Special Rules : These versions have simplified rules and a different maps. Players take wagons from top of deck. There is no face up selection. Each completed ticket is worth 1 point. First to 6 points wins. Players reveal completed tickets during the same and are instantly replaced. Players can take an action to discard both their unfinished tickets and draw new ones.
Bonus Scoring : A bonus point for connecting east/west sides of board
Players : 2-6
Starting pieces: 40
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 3.
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Ferries. Claimed routes MUST connect to your existing claimed routes. Control Of cities with city markers. Optional Alvin the Alien. (with different rules to Alvin and Dexter expansion)
Bonus Scoring : 15 points for most completed tickets. 10 points for longest route.
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 20 trains and 40 ships suggestion but players can vary this.
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 3.
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Two separate piece types and cards for trains and ships. Piece exchanging. harbours, tour tickets.
Bonus Scoring : Points given for routes connected to players harbours.
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 22 trains and 28 ships suggestion but players can vary this.
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 3.
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Two separate piece types and cards for trains and ships. Piece exchanging. harbours.
Bonus Scoring : Points given for routes connected to players harbours.
Players : 2-4
Starting pieces: 15
Starting tickets: Draw 2 keep at least 1.
Tickets during game : Draw 2 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Double Routes claimable in a 3 player game.
Bonus Scoring : Points for connected tourist destinations.
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 20 per player (plus 16 shared Bullet Train markers)
Starting tickets: Draw 4 keep at least 2.
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Bullet Train useable by all players. Game end triggers in usual way and if 2 or fewer bullet train pieces are left in supply.
Bonus Scoring : variable bonus point for contributing to Bullet train.
Players : 2-5
Starting pieces: 45
Starting tickets: Draw 5 keep at least 3.
Tickets during game : Draw 4 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Tickets to zones. Ferry card
Bonus Scoring : Points for connecting different zones to your network.
Bonus Scoring : variable bonus point for contributing to Bullet train.
Players : 2-4
Starting pieces: 17
Starting tickets: Draw 2 keep at least 1.
Tickets during game : Draw 2 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Double Routes claimable in a 3 player game. some routes give merchandise cards.
Bonus Scoring : Points for majorities of merchandise cards.
Players : 2-4
Starting pieces: 32
Starting tickets: draw 2 personal “Family” tickets and 2 from normal deck. Keep at least 2. Untaken tickets removed from the game
Tickets during game : Draw 3 keep at least 1.
Special Rules : Double routes used in 3 players games. tickets personal to players ‘character’. ‘Family routes’ which can be built in sections and used by multiple players.
Bonus Scoring : No end game bonus points
It’s hard to appreciate Bridge fully until you’ve play it! But, to try in plain language:
The bidding-phase is far from a simple a rule-based exchange. It’s a territorial war in prelude to ‘the actual battle’. Tactically, A rich side with want to occupy bid-space to share information, while a poor side want to render space unuseable to neutralise opponent’s advantage or put them on the wrong ‘battlefield’. Also, players must first identify who are the richer and poorer sides, when the initial distribution of assets is unknown!
Exchanging information with partner is a high priority, but one isn’t obliged to bid when it reveals more to opponents than partner. Mild bluff and deceipt are also embraced, however within prescribed limits to prevent the game becoming simple poker. This all requires considerable judgement and skill with bidding rules that are statistically accurate though individually inaccurate.
Limiting bid-exchange to two-word ‘bytes’ of information achieves two goals: (a) The first-player advantage gets evened out so each player receives a meaningful turn, and (b) The small vocabulary constrains exchange to a kind of statistical ‘meta-data’, that helps keep much of the granular information concealed until the playing phase.
Moreover, for today’s game skillfull bidding is listening to what is NOT said, like Sherlock Holmes ‘dog that did not bark in the night!’ Skilled players ‘read’ the one spoken bid as a clever denial of 5 ‘unspoken’ bids, thus exchanging 5 times more data through one bid. And, advanced bidding systems increase this ratio, giving greater band-width to the players astute enough to decode it!
This all creates immense depth in the bidding, and why it’s quite difficult to master. Meanwhile the asymmetric distribution of information rewards teamwork whilst ‘keeping the murderer’s identity hidden until the last card’ in this ingenious game.
113.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, “This creature deals 1 damage to any target”) rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source for use while announcing an activated ability or putting a triggered ability on the stack checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in the zone it’s expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used. The source can still perform the action even though it no longer exists.
Last known information about Legolas is that it’s a 3/6 with deathtouch, so it will deal 3 damage and because of deathtouch, it’s lethal.
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Suppose Player A’s Sporogenic Infection enters enchanting Player B’s Nine-Lives Familiar, and its ETB triggered ability is put onto the stack targeting Player B. Player B responds by casting Back to Nature, destroying Sporogenic Infection. When Sporgenic Infection’s ETB triggered ability resolves, can Player B sacrifice Nine-Lives Familiar?
The best candidate for relevant rule seems to be…
608.2h If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied. If the effect requires information from a specific object, including the source of the ability itself, the effect uses the current information of that object if it’s in the public zone it was expected to be in; if it’s no longer in that zone, or if the effect has moved it from a public zone to a hidden zone, the effect uses the object’s last known information. See rule 113.7a. If an ability states that an object does something, it’s the object as it exists—or as it most recently existed—that does it, not the ability.
I am unclear on the how to apply the phrase “requires information from a specific object.” In my own attempt to arrive at an answer, two distinctions arose…
About which object(s) does the effect require information? Does it look at the creature and view “being enchanted by Sporogenic Infection” as information about that creature? Does it look at the enchantment and view “enchanting Nine-Lives familiar” as information about that enchantment? Does it look at both the creature and the enchantment?
Does the phrase “other than enchanted creature” refer to whichever object(s) the effect ultimately looks at intensionally or extensionally, for example, in the case that the effect will look at just the creature, does the effect say “hey game, give me information about Nine-Lives Familiar” (intensional) or “hey game, give me information about the creature which has the property of being enchanted by Sporogenic Infection”?
If the creature is the sole object of query, and if “other than enchanted creature” refers intensionally, then Nine-Lives Familiar is in the public zone it is expected to be in, thus its current information should be used, and as it is no longer enchanted by Sporogenic Infection, it should be legal for Player B to sacrifice Nine-Lives Familiar. If the creature is the sole object of query, but if instead “other than enchanted creature” refers extensionally, then the game will not find any creature which has the property of being enchanted by Sporogenic Infection, and will have to use last known information to find the creature which has that property, and thus it should be illegal for Player B to sacrifice Nine-Lives Familiar. By similar logic, if the enchantment is the object of focus, then regardless of the intensional VS extensional distinction, it should be illegal for Player B to sacrifice Nine-Lives Familiar. If both the creature and the enchantment are objects of query, then more explanation may be warranted.
What is the right way to interpret and apply this rule? An ideal answer would obviously describe the mechanics which address the broadest category of phrases possible, but if such consistency is not to be found, then at least how does it apply to the phrase “other than enchanted creature” as in the above case?